Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! I glossed up my F-16 to apply the decals, then glossed again to seal. I cant seem to get this stuff to work correctly. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people.". Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a film of white chalk. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. Use ACE brand non spar varnish.Or any brand of non spar varnish flat. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish. 19K. I like the Tamiya Flat Clear but I also like the Citadel Purity Seal varnish. I like to try different products to see which one works best. I guess you missed my post stating that I use MM flat acrylic. This is one of the few things I learned in my brief insurance man career several decades ago. I want to spray it gloss, apply washes and decals then a satin/flat final finish, I have used Tamiya and lifecolor acrylic paints on this ship. If you have questions or problems about painting in the future, go to the Painting Forum. Details. On the Bench:  Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge - 70%. The finish will be nice and smooth and flat. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. Has anyone used Tamiya's clear flat? That is Tamiya Flat Clear painted over Tamiya Orange TS12. In the past I usually just used Tamiya spray can clears such as TS 13 which have worked well for me. You could try multiple coats, but i am sure the car guys might have some useful tips. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The paint can be thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya X-20A Acrylic thinner. The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. It's that easy. As far as I'm aware, Tamiya Clear Flat is a varnish, but their Flat Base is the mixer. I guess I'll bin that stuff. Is there a better way to turn a gloss finish flat? I also agree by using Alclads flat base because it dries fast. 25% flat base is too much?, ignoring the thinner that's 33%. 19K. I also use MM flat lacquer. 'Gem' on flat surfaces (Tamiya Clear) - posted in Painting Tutorials: After trying and failing to get satisfactory results using the Citadel gem paints (soul stone blue, etc.) Crossed posts with Geo. TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. Going to the one you need for answers is a lot easier and more people check out the Forums they're interested in. TeK. So about 10% -15% to Future ratio will give a dead flat finish? I want to get it back to flat. What a cool look! I've used all 3 and they work well, use them just like any paint, no need to mess around with getting the right ratio. I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here. East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019. Sometimes you can get unique effects combining flat parts with glossy parts. The project was the feathers on a winged jump pack (the BA clam pack chaplain to be exact). 290 164. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. Protection being your paint won't scratch off as easily, (this is especially true for acrylic paint base coats) and presentation being glossy or flat. Any advice will be appreciated Larry. Being new to using Tamiya paints, I have seen some posts re. Im thinking of painting my R91Cp flat black and was going to use the PS-55 Flat Clear to turn it matt. Imagin my dismay when the brown wash I had used floated up and made the whole figure look muddy. Farbinfo. Our community is FREE to join. Post May 20, 2008 #2 2008-05-20T01:09. I would have thought you would paint the inside with it first, then paint over it. Only 13 left in stock - order soon. "Firing flares while dumping fuel may ruin your day" SH-60B NATOPS. The Tamiya because it brings out the red color better than the model on the right. I wish I could get some Polly S/Floquil matte finish again. I agree, 25% max, excluding thinner. Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a … I just thin with clean water and have had no drying time issues. Do NOT use the Tamiya Flat black and think you will be able to cover it with this clear finish. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. Just to create a flat finish, I would go with some other waterbased product - like Microscale, Pollyscale, or Vallejo. Getting clear coats right is definately a 'black-art'. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I've never tried it since I still have enough PollyScale flat coat but once I've run out of PollyScale will give XF-86 a bash since I also you Tamiya acrylics. will i able to use tamiya xf-86 flat clear as protection on my tank? Re: Using Tamiya PS-55 flat clear with TS paints I've posted many times on this, as long as you use a PS paint against the lexan, and let it dry thoroughly, you can use any enamel or acrylic over the top, and it won't crack, but preparation is key also. X designated colors have a glossy finish while XF designated colors are flat finish. Name: Flat Clear: Farbe: TS-80 (85080) Typ: Lacquer: Finish: Matt (Transparent) Verpackung: Spray can (100ml) Bereich: Tamiya: Farbbetrachter (beta) Feature in beta, time to complete depends on amount of diapers I need to change :) RGB value: #ffffff. I don't use the Tamiya clears so was not to familiar with what you are useing. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. I'm afraid that is going to ruin one of my builds if I keep using the gloss+Flat Base combo. Not truly flat and just the right amount of sheen for me. I used to mix my own matt or semi-matt clear coats, using a mix of 'Future' and Tamiya Flat Base, the amount of FB determining the degree of matt, from full matt, via semi-matt to semi-gloss. I made that mistake the first time. Equally problematic were the English directions Tamiya used to provide...exactly the same as with their regular paint. I believe the Flat Clear is nothing but Gloss Clear with some amount of Flat Base in it. ForumerDeletedUser. It depends which you want to use in situations. I have a bottle of the Tamiya flat but have not used it. Thanks Geo. It's very existence makes no sense. But the usual two or three light coats works fine with both the gloss and flat sprays. View our. Tamiya flat clear rattle can, no thinning. RichMacer. You could try this, which has worked exceptionally well for me for years, but the last time I tried it (on the P-47), I got a few areas where it 'speckled' and/or went chalky. Three things you could try. To participate you must either login or register for an account. The bottles have white labels and are a little larger than the standard model master size. Maybe it reacts with them. 687. Details. It will become soluble again and smear all over your fig. Spray it on in light coats. You are going for light mist coats, not complete coverage. When airbrushing make sure to use any of the following Tamiya thinners: 81020, 81030, 81040, 81520, 87077. Might at … In Stock. I find 5% - 10% works, depending on the base. I use this more than … Hi Larry Yes, absolutely no problem. I've never understood the fascination with using this  product. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. I have a externally vented spray booth so use ordinary lacquer thinner for cleanup, but before I had the vented booth I used Windex. Airbrush . Using a clear coat is mainly used for protection and presentation. Post May 20, 2008 #1 2008-05-20T00:28. 290 164. I'm considering trying it out and am wondering how well it compares to Testors acrylic clear flat. If you want an acrylic, Model Master has an acrylic gloss, semi-gloss, and flat. I'm merely asking about the Tamiya ratios because I have a bottle and have never tried it. I've been using it for years with great results. I was considering trying it but will not if it has even a hint of tendency to get "chalky white". You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. It will not go well over enamels, but on acrylics it is fine. Having read that last article, I would guess the problem is the Future - when the formula changed in the UK, I got. I'll try this, too. Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. I mixed it 50/50 with Tamiya thinner and it went on with no problems. and I think when you mix it with paints you only use a small amount just to take off the gloss, The paint itself reminds me of a ink called "Tinting Medium" when I worked as a printer we used it instead of white ink. Toss the flat base and get some one step flat finishing product, Dullcoat, or the acrylics mentioned above. Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80. You can use X-21 as a clear cote as long as you use future with it about 2/3 future with 1/3 X-21 and apply with a fine mist. JavaScript is disabled. You must log in or register to reply here. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. Sold by Model Merchants and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. I haven't used Tamiya clear, but have used old-formula Future, mixed in an old 35mm film can, with sealable lid, about 10%  for flat, 5% for satin. Oddly, I've had problems with the Tamiya Gloss Clear not drying completely but not the Flat Clear. Its still makes that white powder finish all over my model and didnt really make it flat? I've just used that stuff on my Ta152 Terry so take a look at how it finishes. Tamiya X-20A thinner, and yes you can mix Tamiya Clear Gloss with Clear Flat or even Flat Base, but DO NOT use Flat base as a stand alone clear flat. Flat Clear TS-80 - 100ml. Any idea why? TAMIYA 87131 Panel Line Accent Color Black For Plastic Model Kit $10.50. More and more, modeler's are looking for the flat look. I have only recently started using Flat base with future. So i mixed 2 parts Tamiya clear, with 1 part Tamiya Flat base and 1 part thinner. Tamiya spray paints are not affected by acrylic or enamel paints. I used it on a Treant figure I painted for my wife. As this is for a car, its a bit out of my area, i only want enough of a gloss to apply decals. 100% deckend . Falcon, to get a nice flat finish, get a spray can of Testors Dullcoat. The number 1use in Japan for flat base is to mix with X-20 for Flat Finishes, On that note Tamiya recommends you use the spray cans for flat clear coats, don't ask, I don't know why!!! I have also tried other Xtra-acrylix Satin, & that was a disaster, so you are not alone. I've always used the tamiya clears and never had an issue. Tamiya gloss, but I am a bit gun-shy about trying it on a car build painted with enamels that I am near to finishing. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. Post 4:54 PM - Jun 25 #2 2020-06-25T16:54. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. In this tutorial we take a look airbrushing Tamiya Acrylic PaintsFor early access to all my videos before general release and shootouts in all my videos. Check out the list of our Forums. K.I.S.S. Tamiya Flat Clear Spray These days high gloss is not the finish that always turns heads. Apparently you paint the outside of the body, is it durable? Hey everyone, I have a can of Tamiya TS-80 flat clear and right on the top of the cap it sais not to spray on decals and stickers. Not much help; but that's the two things which stood out to me. ForumerDeletedUser. For best results allow up to one week. i dont really wanna spray it with any glossy protection such as future/tamiya clear. This item: TAMIYA TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml $12.29. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. When I hand brush figures I put a drop of the stuff in whit val paints to keep from getting shinny spots from to many brush strokes. EDIT: Another tutorial for brush-painting flat colors mentioned to use a separate dry brush after every coat for absorbing the wet streaks. Can Tamiya X-22 clear gloss be used over enamel? TAMIYA … I will try this next time. By combining the use of these three types of paints, the finishing of plastic models becomes simpler and more effective. Check out the model in the picture rotation. More info: View Encycolorpedia - #ffffff. You do have to be careful of it over SOME enamel paints. Has anyone used this? Now I have a shiny F-16. Is Tamiya Clear Flat relatively new? Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. Painting Questions, Tutorials and Guidebooks. 687. producing kits. i find that after spraying a glossy protection then finishing up with a flat clear, the finish still has that shiny look to it due to the glossy protection. I was able to handle the model within 10 minutes but I avoid doing so for several hours and, even then, use facial tissues where I grasp the model. I didn't want to over do it and only added a few drops to a cup on future and I found that was plenty. It always helps to try out ur technique on a scrap piece of painted plastic first. Therefore, following an overall base coat, details can be added or picked out using enamel and/or acrylic paints. Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. As mentioned, I used to mix Future and Tamiya Flat Base, then Humbrol Clear Gloss with the FB after the change to the formula for Future in the UK. “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”. I have found no good way of getting rid of that chalky white after it appears and I've gone as far as spraying straight gloss on it. Sold by Aidleyco and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. The Flat Base is designed to turn Gloss paint... flat. I find though that the more you put on, the more chance you will have of getting a bit of chalking so small amounts are good. The paint can be also thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya Lacquer Thinner. Reply. This should give a nice, streak-free surface after just few coats. I use the Tamiya sprays over dried Tamiya acrylics all the time with no problem. I think careful wet-sanding with superfine grit and spraying TS-80 clear flat as a final coat can give a better look. Try a higher psi like 20-25 and hold the airbrush farther away than you normally do. Why bother with ratios and praying for good luck? A trick to get a better finish is to spray a mist coat of straight thinner right after the clear coat, this helps it level out nicely and get a smoother finish. Like any other paint you dont want to just flood it on in one gloppy thick coat. Not that I can help much Terry, being a brush painter and have used Tamiya Flat for years with great results except for my GB Catalina which was a disaster and has got me skeptical about using it again. "We have our own ammunition. Ah, so that's why I could not get my Clear Gloss to work. modelling diva. Apply, let dry 15 minutes before applying another coat. Light coats are best. You can thin it out about 50/50. If you edit the title of your thread and ask for help getting a gloss finish on cars, you might catch there attention. You'll get quicker answers and probably a lot more of them. Some Advice on Using Tamiya Clear through Airbrush | Military Modelling. If you’re using repro decals (the decent ones that used to be available, not the tat that passes for them on eBay now), then lacquering over the decals – especially if they were a bit matt looking – makes them look sharper, shinier, and therefore better integrated into the finish as a whole. on flat surfaces I pulled out my Tamiya Clear paints (red, green and blue) that I had bought long ago but little used. I do have a battery powered paint stirrer which might help but otherwise I mix approx half and half with x20a thinner and spray away. I also use MM mixed about 50/50 and no problems at all. TeK. The Purity seal because it makes the edging look much than the model on the left. It's filled with paint. RichMacer. Tamiya Clear Flat is a great place to start to get that interesting satin finish. I've yet to find anything that works better for me than Alclad's matte coats, specifically 312 and 314. The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. 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